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By RJ Matson  - The St. Louis Post Dispatch  * Posted 4/25/2008 12:00:00 AM
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Last Updated: 4/25/2008 12:00:00 AM

Posted By: Colin  on Sunday, April 27, 2008

What a wonderful cartoon. Even Clinton supporters cannot argue against this.


Posted By: Arturo Castaneda  on Sunday, April 27, 2008

LOL, she is really stretching the definition of winning there :)


Posted By: Andres Pereyda  on Sunday, April 27, 2008

LOL, humans are stupid :)


Posted By: B. Baker  on Sunday, April 27, 2008

An analogy is worth a thousand words.  The fantasy goes on, but hopefully not past June 3.


Posted By: Bob  on Sunday, April 27, 2008

This is fine.  What I hate is the racism happening in the race, started in large part by Clinton her and him.


Posted By: Judy Adams  on Sunday, April 27, 2008

Clinton needs to stop dividing the party, drop out gracefully, and support Obama.  Instead, she's handing the GOP everything by telling voters that she is the only qualified Democratic candidate.  She's playing dirty politics just like everyone else in Washington - so what makes anyone think she'll change anything if she can't change that.  Obama certainly wasn't hitting her below the belt.  He wasn't really hitting her at all, until he had to, to defend himself during the Pennsylvania primaries.  When queried about why he was hitting back, when he was clearly against slamming those who where running against him, he very reasonably replied, "When you get elbowed enough, you finally have to elbow back."


Posted By: Alex  on Sunday, April 27, 2008

I truely believe that Clinton should not drop out at this point seeing how she is a great campaigner by winning all of the big states virtually leaving obama defenseless as November comes. Also even if she doesn't win, she is an asset to the democratic party because she is helping out Obama seeing how sucky he is in debates. He wont' be able to not debate John McCain and just go away from him because he's scared that he'll loose. Also, i agree with most people calling him NOT ELITE but he sure has an ego. He says that he's going to win pennsylvania, california, and New Jersey FOR SURE and there quote "aint no doubt about it" that he'll win.. I think that He should start by hoping he wins the nomination even though his chances are higher than hillary's


Posted By: Sam Pyeatte  on Sunday, April 27, 2008

The real insanity is the delegate selection process the democrats have come up with.  It favors the idiots who have nothing else to do but be an activist.  Had they used the republican system that uses the popular vote to say winner takes all, Hillary would be in the lead and all this nonsense would not have happened.  Perhaps the dems should be careful what they smoke.


Posted By: corey  on Sunday, April 27, 2008

@ Alex



you'll never hear a politican say they're going to lose a state. Has Hillary said she's going to lose NC? No. Is she? Yes.


Posted By: aboyd  on Sunday, April 27, 2008

I think Alex is delusional.


Posted By: TDubb  on Sunday, April 27, 2008

Depends on what Hilary's definition of "is" is...


Posted By: jim  on Sunday, April 27, 2008

Think about it, by both candidates stil being in the race and neither giving in they force the media for focus on them, the democrates since we all know mccain has the republican nomination he's not interesting and as long as this debate goes on the better it is... even tho the election is not until november greater press coverage over this clash is never a bad thing


Posted By: Cassandra  on Sunday, April 27, 2008

You people comment as though nothing in this election process could ever be anything but dynamic.  Just for once, ONCE can any of you consider the possibility that the media and government are corruptible and the final 'election' for president has already taken place?  Can you try to imagine a situation where someone/something is always at least one step ahead of you?



It's time to look at the situation a moment without taking sides, to notice the equivalent of a sporting event and the 'voters' now just spectators (hopefully) being entertained.  McCain has a 69% disapproval rating, you all hate what he stands for.  THIS was known LONG BEFORE he was chosen TO LOSE the election to a democrat.  He is THE PATSY and PIÑATA for all of you to beat out your Bush hatred on on in the general while they sneak someone past you who is far more violent and duplicitous than Bush could ever be.  It was long ago decided that the maintenance of power lies in the forked tongue of two parties that serve the one you cannot see.  For the government to maintain your illusions, there must be a democratic president in '09.  HOWEVER, it is not enough to maintain a farce without without also sabotaging those who would believe in something more.  Enter the great, black kennedy that is OBAMA.  They WILL use him to disappoint you.....TO BREAK YOUR WILL TO BE INVOLVED.  THEY WILL NOMINATE HILLARY and CREATE A NEW FALSE SENSE OF URGENCY TO UNITE AGAINST THE GOP.  MCCAIN IS THE REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY AGAINST PROGRESS AND THEY WILL USE HIM TO MAKE YOU VOTE FOR HILLARY.  YOUR DOUBLE NEGATIVE IS THEIR POSITIVE.  THE LESSOR OF TWO EVILS IS A DEVIL'S BARGAIN.



Believe whatever you want, but remember I told you that your next president will be a woman.


Posted By: Neutral  on Sunday, April 27, 2008

@Sam



I assume by your comment you, like Hillary are counting Florida and Michigan, correct? Well, my friend, even with these she is still a little "confused" or maybe outright lying as usual. Check out the link: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html Maybe there is some way the Clintonites can twist this as well. I support neither of these candidate nor McCain. I just hate to see ignorance reign. Just remember Michigan can't be counted because Obama was not on the ballot.


Posted By: traveler  on Sunday, April 27, 2008

@ Cassandra.



Well said. I couldn't agree with you more.


Posted By: andiamo1234  on Monday, April 28, 2008

I found this through the internet under the titles of the books. How true can all this be? And if true God help us.







Subject: Famous Hillary Quotes - A MUST READ!

Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:31:24 -0500



REAL NICE, HUH

   WHAT A SWEET, WONDERFUL PERSON THE HILDABEAST IS.

            Cheers to the Truth!

        "Where is the G-damn Fxxking flag?  I want the G-damn Fxxking flag

up every Fxxking morning at Fxxking sunrise."

       (From the book "Inside The White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 244 -

Hillary to the staff at the Arkansas Governor's mansion on Labor Day, 1991)



       "You sold out, you mother Fxxker!  You sold out!"

       From the book "Inside" by Joseph Califano, p. 213 - Hillary yelling

at Democrat lawyer.



       "It's been said, and I think it's accurate, that my husband was

obsessed by terrorism in general and al- qaida in particular."

       (Hillary telling a post-9/11 world what a 'great' commander in chief

her husband was; Dateline, NBC 4/16/2004.)



       "I have to admit that a good deal of what my husband and I have

learned [about Islam] has come from our daughter."

       (TruthInMedia.org 8/8/1999 - Hillary at a White House function,

proudly tells some Muslim groups she is gaining a greater appreciation of

Islam because Chelsea was then taking a class on the "religion of peace")



       "Fxxk off!  It's enough that I have to see you shit-kickers every

day, I'm not going to talk to yo u too!!  Just do your G*damn job and keep

your mouth shut."

       (From the book "American Evita" by Christopher Anderson, p. 90 -

Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with

"Good morning."



       "You Fxxking idiot."

       (From the book "Crossfire" p . 84 - Hillary to a State Trooper who

was driving her to an event.)



       "If you want to remain on this detail, get your Fxxking ass over here

and grab those bags!"

       (From the book "The First Partner" p. 259 - Hillary to a Secret

Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage be cause he wanted to

keep his hands free in case of an incident.)



       "Get Fxxked!  Get the Fxxk out of my way!!!  Get out of my face!!!"

       (From the book "Hillary's Scheme" p. 89 - Hillary's various comments

to her Secret Service detail agents.)



       "Stay the Fxxk back, stay the Fxxk away from me!  Don't come within

ten yards of me, or else!  Just xxxking do as I say, Okay!!!?"

       (From the book "Unlimited Access", by Clinton FBI Agent in Charge,

Gary Aldrige, p. 139 - Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail.)



       "Many of you are well enough off that [President Bush's] tax cuts may

have helped you.  We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're

probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to have

to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

       (Hillary grandstanding at a fund raising speech in San Francisco;

SFGate.com 6/28/2004.)



       "Why do I have to keep proving to people that I am not a liar?!"

       (From the book " The Survivor," by John Harris, p. 382 - Hillary in

her 2000 Senate campaign)



       "Where's the miserable Fxxking sucker?"

       (From the book "The Truth About Hillary" by Edward Klein, p. 5 -

Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer)



       "No matter what you think about the Iraq war, there is one thing we

can all agree on for the next days - we have to salute the courage and

bravery of those who are risking their lives to vote and those brave Iraqi

and American soldiers fighting to protect their right to vote.

       (Was posted on Hillary Clinton's senate.gov web site on 1/28/05)



       "Put this on the ground!  I left my sunglasses in the limo.  I need

those sunglasses.  We need to go back!"

       (From the book "Dereliction of Duty" p. 71-72 - Hillary to Marine One

helicopter pilot to turn back while en route to Air Force One.)



       "A right-wing network was after his presidency...includi ng

perverting the Constitution."

       (To Barbara Walters about the Republicans who impeached her husband;

20/20, ABC 6/8/2003.)



       "Son of a bitch."

       (From the book "American E vita" by Christopher Anderson, p. 259 -

Hillary's opinion of President George W. Bush when she found out he secretly

visited Iraq just days before her highly publicized trip to Iraq)



       "What are you doing inviting these people into my home? These people

are our enemies! They are trying to destroy us!"

       (From the book "The Survivor" by John Harris, p. 99 - Hillary

screaming to an aide, when she found out that some Republicans had been

invited to the Clinton White House)



       "I mean, you've got a conservative and right-wing press presence with

really nothing on the other end of the political spectrum."

       (C-Span, 1/19/1997 - Hillary complains about the mainstream media,

which are all conservatives in her opinion)

      

< BR>"Come on Bill, put your dick up! You can't fxxk her here!!"

       (From the book "Inside The White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 243 -

Hillary to Gov. Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female

at an Arkansas political rally)



       You know, I'm going to start thanking the woman who cleans the

restroom in the buildi ng I work in.  I'm going to start thinking of her as

a human being -Hillary Clinton

       (From the book "The Case Against Hillary Clinton" by Peggy Noonan, p.

55)



       "You show people what you're willing to fight for when you fight your

friends."

       (From the book "The Agenda" by Bob Woodward, ch. 14)



       "We are at a stage in history in which remolding society is one of

the great challenges facing all of us in the West."

       (From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper,

p. 119 - During her 1993 commencement address at the University of Texas)<

/B>



       "The only way to make a difference is to acquire power"

       (From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper,

p. 68 -  Hillary to a friend before starting law school.)



       "We just can't trust the American people to make those types of

choices.... Government has to make those choices for people"

       (From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper,

p. 20 - Hillary to Rep. Dennis Hastert in 1993 discussing her expensive,

disastrous taxpayer-funded health care plan)



       "I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe" Hillary

in 1996" From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper,

p. 76 - Hillary in 1996)

      

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

      

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<      

This  ill-tempered, violent, foul mouthed, hateful and abusive woman

wants to be your president and have total control as commander-in-chief of a

military that her party so openly and proudly admit they detest.  I can see

someone like this gaining the respect of other nations, and especially from

their leaders, who refuse to do as she tells them ...or else.  No thanks, my

country deserves a better leader, not a dominatrix!



_________________________________________________________________


Posted By: bobbbbb  on Monday, April 28, 2008

What I find most amazing is the fact that Obama, not Hilary won Texas has barely been reported



caucuses don't count, right?


Posted By: Cathy  on Monday, April 28, 2008

I hope Clinton wins. She is the more experienced candidate. She has sponsored and cosponsored over a thousand bills. Obama is just getting started with his wee pint sized number. Then again the current administration does not have much experience yet it is making a fortune on the war (halibrtn) and are making the white house more powerful than the people by ignoriing our constitution.

Republicans are chipping away at our civil rights. Certain appointees of the supreme court misinterpreted the civil rights act instituted in the 60's and the senate let the equal pay for equal work legislation fail this week in an attempt to make the change stick. Will everyone please get angry about what is happening in Washington? This is not just about equal pay for women. It is about civil rights for everyone. We need to get back to the 60's and take back our country.  Forget basketball and cartoons and all the hype. Obamah supposedly has more educated people supporting his campaign yet his people claim they are only sending him five dollars a week when they get their pay. Maybe if the equal pay legislation passed we would not have such educated Obama supporters making a pittance. Stand up for your rights before they are gone!


Posted By: Yung  on Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Yah but who cares about your dumb Yank tank politics anyway!!


Posted By: Dauric  on Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Yeah, with these early primaries voter apathy is bound to set in earlier this election cycle. A long and contentious democratic primary is likely to hurt both democrats and republicans with this extended coverage making us all burned out on all things political.

It's sad really. Whatever other motivations may be attributed to him, good or ill, Obama really did try to take the high road and stick to real policy issues. Unfortunately there's too much 'old-political' in the system and when charges were laid against him for any multitude of side-issues he wasn't able to turn attention away from them. Either he says little to nothing in an attempt to keep the focus on policy and is promptly accused of trying to hide something, or he has to defend some part of his life in the public and that only fuels the tabloid frenzy.

Of course the public-at-large is absorbed with these minutiae of personality, it makes for good daytime television, and the news outlets abandon their journalistic duty to chase the gaffe of the week in order to secure that all important rating.

Unless something changes drastically, in our culture and in the way we gather and distribute news, we'll never see a real statesman in office. We're just going to get ambitious people who play the part of common everyday "Joe/Jane" while raking in billions from their investments and screwing the public with policies that benefit only those in their own tax bracket. I'd have thought we'd have had enough of that over the last 7 years.

So with the earlier primaries and an extended primary process we the people get to slog through more political slime day-in and day-out talking about crap that fails to be of any importance to any of us out here in the real world where we have to deal with inflation out-pacing our wages, rising costs of gas and other necessities.

Just my $0.02


Posted By: Yung  on Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Yah but no voter apathy here. I'm not one of you bleedin' Yanks.  I'm not one of you navel-gazing self righteous Americans.


Posted By: Nexeffex  on Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Obama is Free from Rev. Wright and now every basket he makes will knock the crap out of dummy Clinton! and her corporate backers!


Posted By: Mycroft  on Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Hey,

Hillary HAS to win,  all those lobbyist have paid alot of money for her.


Posted By: Mycroft  on Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Hey,

Hillary HAS to win,  all those lobbyist have paid alot of money for her.


Posted By: pedro  on Monday, May 05, 2008

Oh well, I will vote for McCain!  Democrats will never learn!  We voted for Carter after Nixon's debacle:  a good man, but an ineffective president (21% interest rates and the highest inflation in my lifetime.  I said to myself:  NOT AGAIN!  Obama is a good man, but has no experience at all, notice he prefers to fend Hillary's attacks rather than explaining how he is going to govern.  Maybe in four years from now when his record show some promise, but not this year for me.  


Posted By: Sam  on Saturday, May 10, 2008

So, you want only the experienced to represent you.  Well, that's exactly what you've had and now we face rising food cost, oil executives that are buddies with your so called experienced politicians, housing crunch, loss of jobs, crime rates up. In other words the experienced political machine has failed miserbly and I for one don't intend for them to continue with the same old words and deeds.  So, Hillary and John have been on various committees and sponsored bills now get this many of them did not pass and actually would have added very little value to your life or mine.  Again experience is suppose to be the best teacher but in this case-spare us, as a military widow and a son in Iraq-I don't want anymore of their rhetoric Hillary has made 80 trips overseas so what?  But when was her daughter's life on the line(oops) experience taught her to even lie about being under fire to make her EXPERIENCE sound better, the list could go on and on.  An pedro it is apparent that experience will eventually teach you, that their are times when not responding to stupid comments will serve you better than making rash statements that could possibly lead you to lie to cover your tracks at a later date.  Were you born with experience to handle your current job or have you had otjt?            


Posted By: Dontre L. Conerly  on Wednesday, June 04, 2008

To ALL: The fact is this, 56% of her voters are not voting for Obama, not because they are "uneducated," or "racist," as his camp would ike to believe, but because we don't have CONFIDENCE and FAITH in his candidacy. You can make as many arguments as you'd like about why you don't like Hillary, but I am of the opinion that her EXPERIENCE in Washington, with the world leaders, in the Senate (for at least a FULL term) has given her more pragmatic knowledge of how Congress works! Obama is intelligent, no doubt, but so is Hillary, so that argument is out! Obama is electrifying, so is Hillary, so that argument is out! But, let's reverse the equation: Hillary has worked with Senate/House Republicans on the Hill to pass major legislation--Obama HASN'T! Hillary has political clout, experience, and knowledge of the inner workings of Washington, its elites, and the law-makers--Obama doesn't! What Obama does have is an articulate magnetism that, frankly, won't go a very long way with Republicans in Congress, and gets lost in translation with world leaders. Hillary, who is known to the world, has worked with the leaders of the world (or their WIVES, at least!), and has a presence on the world stage is better suited and the better candidate.


Posted By: John Stone  on Saturday, June 07, 2008

PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! TAKE ME OFF THE E-MAIL LIST!!!!!

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