Posted By: Dauric  on Tuesday, April 22, 2008

The problem is that no-one ever sees themselves as the evil ones, it's always someone else that is the evildoer.

I agree that Hamas is an evil organization, their rhetoric and their tactics, to everyone else in the world are abhorrent.

The problem is how do you actually -solve- the problem of any particular instance of evil? Sure we can isolate them and cut them off from any support, but that doesn't do anything but bolster our feelings of moral superiority, but they still -exist-; their instance of evil will continue to exist. Isolating them only feeds their paranoia, and bolsters the propaganda that brings people of the region to their side by proving them right.

Remember Hamas was -elected- to rule. They have gained popular support.

Adolf Hitler was evil but dealing with him was relatively simple, European culture, like America, is based heavily on the idea of the Nation. Crush the German army and you have the ability to bring the Nazi party to justice.

(Well what'dy know, I broke the thread before it even started...)

Japan had strong ties of honor and service, and the Emperor was a god, even up to WWII. The only way to stop the invasion of Japan from being a bloodbath was to leave no doubt that continued struggle would obliterate  the people of Japan one way or another, and that obliteration would come without the ability to honorably fight back. Facing that kind of threat the Japanese emperor had only one responsible path before him, surrender.

Now the question is how do we solve the evil in the middle east? The people of that area are bound by ethnicity, clan and family rather than by national borders so we cannot simply invade their territory as their territory will shift like sand around the invaders. Their honor and obligation ties ensure that if we find the leadership and remove them half a dozen of their siblings and other relatives are obligated to take their place. Worst yet is that their (some argue perversely mutated) religion makes them immune to the prospect of death, even immune to the fear of being massacred wholesale. After all, anyone not just a fighter, who dies in the cause of Allah will go to heaven.

So now how do we -solve- the problem? There seem to be two options left:

(1) Negotiate with them, get them to change their tactics and rhetoric little-by-little until they are no longer afflicted by this evil.

(2) Nuke them so hard the sand beneath their feet turns to glass.

I'm not saying one is preferable to the other, just that nothing else seems to have worked.

$0.02

Posted By: Uncle Ernie  on Wednesday, April 23, 2008

Other than shit what do you use for brains? I'm sure your puppet masters in Tel Aviv are proud of you but I bet your mama isn't. I'm guessing you got paid the traditional 30 pieces of silver by your Zionazi masters?