Posted By: fencerider rob on Thursday, July 24, 2008
No money in advocating less children, that is why it's not mentioned and ignored. But I guess you have to believe in the agw hogwash in the first place. Agw has not been proven by any stretch of the imagination and is highly disputed in real scientific circles. Al Gore is in no way an expert and cannot buy the world opinion, although he has bought quite a few. Until I'm the recipient of one of his grants, I will remain a "denier" as the agw alarmist have called me. Before you blow a top explain one simple thing to me with scientific proof, how did the earth warm and cool before humans where creating this so-called carbon footprint. Naturally, same as now. One volcanic eruption spews more co2 into the air than all of the oil/coal/gas that is burnt in the USA for an entire year. We as humans may of scratch the surface but in no way are going to effect the end of time, so to speak.
Posted By: Good Life on Thursday, July 24, 2008
The way to national prosperity today is to limit the population. In the past we needed people to run factories for prosperity. Today factories practically run themselves and fewer people will be needed with each technological advancement.China became a world economic power because of one child. The money of 4 grandparents was consolidated in one child and that child had enough to start a business. The same thing happened when the plague reduced population in Europe.Reducing population will form some economic contortions with aging population and less need of construction. But after a generation these will iron out.In the US we even spend millions making the infertile fertile. I really don't understand why anyone needs a "biological" child when one can adopt, but that's another thread.The catch is who is going to run for office on the basis of limiting population? Try to get that past the "fundamentalist? christians?".
Posted By: ml johnstone on Friday, July 25, 2008
Should have added pets too! Like.... how many dogs do you have.
Posted By: Mihai (Romania) on Friday, July 25, 2008
Very good article. Why few people speak about this? Because it is an unpopular subject - you basically tell people what to do in a very important aspect of their life.fencerider rob - the problem is not the global climate or nature in general. It is about an environment that is good for us, humans. Life on Earth went on very well even after the dinosaurs vanished, but I don't think that the dinosaurs were happy about that.For an well balanced book about environment disasters I recommend "Collapse" by Jared Diamond.
Posted By: Good Life on Friday, July 25, 2008
I would second the recommendation of "Collapse". It's rather scary when one looks at the destruction of farm land in the US. Taking 5-10 acres out of production for one house is extremely wasteful and our descendants will pay for that greed. So much today is "live for today and get mine" with no regard for the future. This will be the first generation that will pass to our children less than we received.
Posted By: Donn Dublin on Tuesday, July 29, 2008
Population control in nothing new. It's also known as "ethnic cleansing". Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin and Aldof Hitler were some of the last to practice it. It has become common practice adopted by socialism over the past century. Is the left using the extream enviromental movement to create kaos on the world economy causing a calasp of the food market causing mass starvation and desease? IS that their plan for "population control"?Perhaps the liberals should do us all favor and drink the "tainted cool-aide" and show us all how it's done.
Population control in nothing new. It's also known as "ethnic cleansing". Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin and Aldof Hitler were some of the last to practice it. It has become common practice adopted by socialism over the past century. Is the left using the extream enviromental movement to create kaos on the world economy causing a collaspe of the food market resulting in mass starvation and desease? IS that their plan for "population control"?Perhaps the liberals should do us all favor and drink the "tainted cool-aide" and show us all how it's done.
Posted By: Mihai (Romania) on Tuesday, July 29, 2008
Donn Dublin - This is exactly what Jared Diamond explains in his "Collapse". If populations don't act preventive to limit its number to a long term sustainable level, the problem of limited resources will "solve itself" by violent outbursts. And sometimes, when that happens, everybody lose.
Posted By: jack sprat on Wednesday, July 30, 2008
Good Life"The catch is who is going to run for office on the basis of limiting population? Try to get that past the "fundamentalist? christians?"." It's been tried already, Hitler and Margaret Sanger both used and pushed "eugenics", how foresited.Although the "ZPG" movement was in concept good, except the "other half" of the world didn't go along. Sterilization programs have been used in many countries, voluntary and involuntary. I would hope you would opf for the former, in your brave new world.
Donn Dublin In fact the "liberated" are already taking care of "half" of our countries population problem, aborting their kids at 1.3 mil per year, 50 mil so far, as one "learned" gentleman, if they can get gay marrage, they can't "breed", takes care of it's self. It wasn't a comet, but the dino's followed the liberial agenda, too faithfully.
fencerider rob I'm ashamed of you, generally you're very knowledgable, the dino's drove the SUVs the aliens left. Had to have been, 'cuz al said it's "settled science." : )
